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Teachers/principals/counsellors, why do kids in school that stand up for themselves in self defense get punished, yet the actions of the initial problem gets ignored everyday?

In the US, there is a federal law called FERPA, that means information about students is kept private. It is illegal for a teacher or administrator to tell you another student’s grades, disability status, or in the case of your question, discipline status. Even if _______ punched you in the face, you do not have the right to know what their punishment was for the punching.

Now, of course, often _______ is an angry and misguided child who would need years of guidance to show signs of better behavior, and it turns out that a five-day suspension doesn’t fix anything. Instead _________, who hates being in school, is rewarded with a few days off from school to play video games. So they don’t feel punished, and the behavior doesn’t change.

Maybe a “good” kid decides to fight back, and punches _____ in the face. They get a five-day suspension, because it is against school rules. They care what their friends and teachers think of them, they miss sports, and their parents make sure that their suspension involves taking out the trash and mowing the lawn, not playing video games. They do feel punished. But, (and this is important to answering your question), both students received the same punishment from the school.

School kids then spread rumors and misinformation saying that “_______never got punished” which technically isn’t true.

TL;DR- 1) You don’t know who gets punished because it’s illegal for anyone to tell you. 2) If one kid doesn’t care about getting suspended and the other does, only one feels punished. 3) And, some kids like spreading fake rumors that make a better story than the truth.

As a teacher in an elementary school, I don’t discuss the consequences of any one child with other children. This leads to a lot of kids thinking they were the only one who had a negative consequence, when in reality I’m respecting the privacy of all involved parties.

So, for example, say it is lunch time. A student reports Kaden pushed Antonio and caused him to drop his lunch tray. I ask Kaden about it, and he tells me it was because Antonio had tripped him. Then I talk to Antonio, confirm events with witnesses, and then meet back up with the kids. I would discuss Antonio’s negative consequence with Antonio, but no one else. Then do the same for Kaden.

Which, like I said, makes them think the other kid didn’t get in trouble. Mainly because they didn’t see it/be told about it. But they both did.

Of course my answer is only at the elementary level, dealing with 10-11 year old fifth graders. The answer definitely changes depending on a bunch of different factors.

Because you can’t fire a student.

For real does it actually happen?
Never saw it happen neither to me nor others,

My parents were mad as heck and actually took care of my one day detention if i still had that one i would have been send to another school ( i did 2 max was 3)

I think a lot of people expect kids to be suspended or expelled for certain things – but that can get tricky when they have an IEP as they have a right to an education.

Obviously not all students with behavioral problems are SPED but in my experience the students with the most serious behavior problems are.